Will You hide Yourself forever? Jesus’ comment would seem to suggest that hell may be somewhere within Hades. Isaiah wrote that YHWH cancelled our covenant with death & the grave: Therefore, hear the word of YHWH, O scoffers, who rule this people who are in Jerusalem, because you have said, “We have made a covenant with death, and with Sheol we have made a pact. Death, chaos and destruction were what the Adversary loved and what YHWH despised. Just like Isaiah announced seven hundred years prior, Yeshua would not decay. (Ecclesiastes 9:​10) Death cannot literally be burned. He who believes in it will not be disturbed. It simply means “the place of the dead” or “the place of departed souls/spirits.” The New Testament Greek equivalent to sheol is hades, which is also a general reference to “the place of the dead.” The Greek word gehenna is used in the New Testament for “hell” and is derived from the Hebrew word hinnom. SHEOL, GRAVE, HELL: Sheol. Can anyone explain to me the difference between hades and gehenna in the bible? Yeshua was pointing the finger directly at the Pharisees… they were taking sons, children of YHWH, and converting them to evil, no differently than sacrificing children directly to Ba’al or Molech. But is it really possible to be separated from YHWH? “How you have fallen from heaven, O star of the morning [shining one], son of the dawn! . SHEOL, HADES, PARADISE AND GEHENNA. Today our culture seems to accept the fate of the grave and the finality of death. what my span of life is; for what vanity You have created all the sons of men! (Revelation 19:20; 20:10, 14, 15; 21:8) The following are cast into the lake of fire: 1. Gehenna or hell is further described as a place of horrible suffering (Mark 9:43, 48). But if you believe in a Creator God who brought life out of nothing, then trust that He came to save and not to kill. And so this perversion of creation, where death feeds life (dead bodies become food), meant that the land became polluted and turned to ruin and rot. Gehenna is NOT hell. I cared for you in the wilderness, in the land of drought. Those who see you will gaze at you, they will ponder over you, saying, ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, who shook kingdoms, who made the world like a wilderness and overthrew its cities, who did not allow his prisoners to go home?’, All the kings of the nations lie in glory, each in his own tomb. Job addressed this: “Remember that my life is but breath; my eye will not again see good. And if you are a child of YHWH, it’s better to do these drastic measures than be thrown to the place where the gods of evil sacrificed children; the place that YHWH called the Valley of Slaughter, where people become a meal to birds and beast, in a perverted and polluted land. Selah. What is hell? It is the same thing as the lake of fire mentioned in Revelation Ch.20. According to Jesus, gehenna or hell is where both the body and soul are destroyed (Matthew 10:28). ... A minority of Christians read this to mean that neither Hades nor Gehenna are eternal but refer to the ultimate destruction of the wicked in the Lake of Fire in a consuming fire after resurrection. If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go into hell [ten geennan], into the unquenchable fire, (where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched). YHWH always chooses life over death, and order over chaos. For You had cast me into the deep, into the heart of the seas, and the current engulfed me. Prior to the NT, Hades was simply the realm of the dead. In its heyday, it was a place of debauchery, where the Greeks celebrated the goat god Pan with acts of prostitution and bestiality. For Your lovingkindness toward me is great, and You have delivered my soul from the depths of Sheol. ” But Ahaz said, “I will not ask, nor will I test YHWH!” Then He said, “Listen now, O house of David! That may sound strange, but by the time you’re finished reading this posting I hope you end up feeling the same way. Return, O YHWH. Scripture passages in which Gehenna is used should be distinguished from those using Hades, which refers to a place of temporary torment that we might refer to as the immediate, or present, Hell. A Quick word on Hades. Yeshua was making a startling claim… and the Pharisees would get it. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! 1 In contrast, the dead who will not be raised are described as being, not in Sheol, or Hades, but “in Gehenna.” (Matthew 5:30; 10:28; 23:33) Like Sheol and Hades, Gehenna is not a literal place. Yeshua stood in the village which held (many believed) the gate of Hades and he preached that the gate of Hades would never overcome his kingdom of followers. And it shall be from and from sabbath to sabbath, all mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says YHWH. Hades is a Greek term used in the New Testament as a rough equivalent to the Hebrew word sheol and also describes the grave or location of the dead. (see study on gehenna) Other Scriptures in the New Testament indicated that sheol/hades is a temporary place where souls are kept as they await the final resurrection. Whatever your thoughts of hell may be, the hope that believers should hold onto is this: We go to the grave, but it won’t hold us down. The Hebrew is “Ge-Hinnom.” This ravine or valley is just outside of Jerusalem to the southwest. Lift your arms towards God, He will pull you out of Sheol and place you in His Presence. Dr. Robert A. Morey states, [from his book, 'Death and the Afterlife', Bethany House Publishers, Minneapolis, Mn, 1984, p. 72-93]: SHEOL. The ultimate fate of the wicked is suffering outside of the gates of the New Jerusalem. Yeshua, shockingly, took His disciples there. He proclaimed, out-loud, that YHWH would not abandon his soul to Sheol; he would rise up and be delivered out of the depths of darkness and the pit of nothingness: Teach me Your way, O YHWH; I will walk in Your truth; unite my heart to fear Your name. Jesus used this word ten times as recorded in the New Testament. How could God save David from the grave? Gehinnom is not Hell, but originally a grave and in later times a sort of purgatory where one is judged based on one's life's deeds, or rather, where one becomes fully aware of one's own shortcomings and negative a But let’s consider for a moment one who does NOT rise. A writing of Hezekiah king of Judah after his illness and recovery: I said, “In the middle of my life I am to enter the gates of Sheol; I am to be deprived of the rest of my years.” I said, “I will not see YHWH, YHWH in the land of the living; I will look on man no more among the inhabitants of the world…, …Lo, for my own welfare I had great bitterness; it is You who has kept my soul from the pit of nothingness, for You have cast all my sins behind Your back. Ethan was direct: Who, living, does not face death? If your eye causes you to stumble, throw it out; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be cast, , where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched.”, The valley of Ginnom was almost exclusively referred to (in the Tanakh) as the place where children were sacrificed to Molech. For there is no mention of You in death; in Sheol [bish’ohl] who will give You thanks? "Hades is, as it were, the sepulche of souls" (Bengel). YHWH makes poor and rich; He brings low, He also exalts. In her joy, she gave a prophetic prayer: “YHWH kills and makes alive; He brings down to Sheol and raises up. Is there anything worse than being forgotten? He, . They couldn’t be more different: one is spiritual, the other physical; one is temporary, the other eternal. Now the women who had come with Him out of Galilee followed, and. In a hotbed of human depravity, a place that all God-following Jews avoided at every cost, Peter stood up and declared the divinity of Yeshua. Where are Your former lovingkindnesses, O Lord, which You swore to David in Your faithfulness? SHEOL, GRAVE, HELL: Sheol. In the sermon he quoted a Psalm of David (. Therefore, behold, days are coming,” declares YHWH, “when it will no longer be called Topheth, or the valley of the son of Hinnom  [w-gei ben-hinnom], but the valley of the Slaughter; for they will bury in Topheth because there is no other place. It is an allusion and alternate name to refer to the hell of the damned. This place (Gei ben Hinnom) showed up a few times in the Tanakh. He is not here, but He has risen. If I look for Sheol as my home, I make my bed in the darkness; if I call to the pit, ‘You are my father’; to the worm, ‘my mother and my sister’. And if you are a child of YHWH, it’s better to do these drastic measures than be thrown to the place where the gods of evil sacrificed children; the place that YHWH called the Valley of Slaughter, where people become a meal to birds and beast, in a perverted and polluted land. And he took it down and wrapped it in a linen cloth, and laid Him in a tomb cut into the rock, where no one had ever lain. For the waves of death encompassed me; the torrents of destruction overwhelmed me; the cords of Sheol surrounded me; the snares of death confronted me. You have put me in the lowest pit, in dark places, in the depths. The only place outside of … Be gracious to me, O YHWH, for I am pining away; heal me, O YHWH, for my bones are dismayed. Who can escape the grave? Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Sarah E. Fisher and hebrewwordlessons.com with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. Yeshua had to defeat death before we could be redeemed. If your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life lame, than, having your two feet, to be cast into hell [ten geennan], (where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched). He keeps the feet of His godly ones, but the wicked ones are silenced in darkness; for not by might shall a man prevail.”. They knew of the Valley of Gei Hinnom and its connection to child sacrifice by fire to malevolent foreign gods. (Strong’s, After a week of researching Sheol, which often gets translated as “Hell”, I thought I’d be feeling rather grim at the end of it all, but the word has actually given me a great amount of hope and positivity. O YHWH my God, I cried to You for help, and You healed me. Yeshua preached that the lowest would rise, the humble would be lifted up, the servant would become King. If I ascend to heaven, You are there; I said, “In the middle of my life I am to enter, ; I am to be deprived of the rest of my years.” I said, “, ; I will look on man no more among the inhabitants of the world…, …Lo, for my own welfare I had great bitterness; it is You who has kept my soul from the, , for You have cast all my sins behind Your back. It was fire, and torment, and death of the innocent. Ethan was direct: Who, living, does not face death? Can he deliver his soul from the power of Sheol? The former is temporary and for souls; the latter eternal for "body and soul". They are all mentioned in Scripture. . Gehenna or Gehinnom is thought to be a small valley in Jerusalem. Will Your wrath burn like fire? If each time the word Gehenna is used it is replaced by “Garbage dump”, a whole different understanding of what is being said comes into view. Haidees (Hades) is one of the three Greek words (haidees, tartaroo, geenna) that the King James Version of the Bible translates as “hell”. For their worm will not die and their fire will not be quenched; and they will be an abhorrence to all mankind.”. Now they were. May the offspring of evildoers not be mentioned forever.”. With a careful study of the text, you come to realize that Yeshua used this word, instead of Hades, to make a specific point. They looked on the corpses (not bodies being tortured, just lifeless bodies) and it was unacceptable in their sight. Hades is the land of the dead in Greek/Roman myth, but it has separate areas for separate spirits Sheol is the Judeo-Christian land of the dead separate from Heaven Gehenna was a valley in Israel somewhere near Mount Zion where blood sacrifices were made, but it’s also used as one of the names of Hell 94 views What becomes really interesting is that Yeshua used the word Geenna, strategically, in a few conversations: Sitting down, He [Jesus] called the twelve and said to them, “If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.” Taking a child, He set him before them, and taking him in His arms, He said to them, “Whoever receives one child like this in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me does not receive Me, but Him who sent Me…, …Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe to stumble, it would be better for him if, with a heavy millstone hung around his neck, he had been cast into the sea. Remember what my span of life is; for what vanity You have created all the sons of men! In most instances when Yeshua talked about Hell, the Greek word Hades was used by the Gospel writers. Ransom and redemption was exactly what YHWH planned and it was exactly what He would deliver! Will Your wonders be made known in the darkness? And it shall be from and from sabbath to sabbath, all mankind will come to bow down before Me,” says YHWH. This Jesus God raised up again, to which we are all witnesses.”. That may sound strange, but by the time you’re finished reading this posting I hope you end up feeling the same way. Now the women who had come with Him out of Galilee followed, and saw the tomb and how His body was laid. But God will redeem my soul from the power of Sheol, for He will receive me. What the Tanakh does make it clear, is that Sheol is not the place where evil people go. Gehenna is often described as a place of fire and brimstone. *9 The Unseen World] Greek, 'Hades,' the adobe of departed spirits; Hebrew, 'Sheol.' Historically the English word for hell has the following history and origin (1): This would be the fate of the Shining one, the Chief Evildoer, the Adversary, thrust down to Sheol to the recesses of the pit, ; and the upright shall rule over them in the morning, and their form shall be, Yeshua had to defeat death before we could be, , and have not let my enemies rejoice over me. Who wanted to ascend to the heights, but instead was thrust down to Sheol? As water evaporates from the sea, and a river becomes parched and dried up, so man lies down and does not rise. But you have been cast out of your tomb like a rejected branch, clothed with the slain who are pierced with a sword, who go down to the stones of the pit like a trampled corpse. For official apologetics resources please visit. New replies are no longer allowed. Tradition and mythology vs. Scripture. So here’s a list of all the verses where they are mentioned by name in the Bible, complete with an excerpt of that part of the verse. It should also be noted that Heman mentioned Abaddon. He enlarges his appetite like Sheol, and he is like death, never satisfied. They will all respond and say to you, ‘Even, . , I have cried out by day and in the night before You. It first appears in the Bible in… He also gathers to himself all nations and collects to himself all peoples.”. “Remember me!” said Job; “Remember what my life span is!” said Ethan. Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, In most instances when Yeshua talked about Hell,  the Greek word. In the Hebrew Bible, Gehenna was initially where some of the kings of Judah sacrificed their children by fire. It is the same thing as the lake of fire mentioned in Revelation Ch.20. He paid the price to set us free: And a man named Joseph, who was a member of the Council, a good and righteous man(he had not consented to their plan and action [to crucify Jesus]), a man from Arimathea, a city of the Jews, who was waiting for the kingdom of God; this man went to Pilate and asked for the body of Jesus. King Hezekiah was at the brink of his own death, when God spared him. For Sheol cannot thank You, death cannot praise You; those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness. Therefore my heart was glad and my tongue exulted; moreover, . In most instances when Yeshua talked about Hell,  the Greek word Hades was used by the Gospel writers. All Your breakers and billows passed over me. YHWH had granted Hannah her deepest desire… to become a mother. Hades, to those living within Greek culture (as the early Messiah followers were), was the god of the dead and the underworld, and the place of the dead was named after him. Where can I go from Your Spirit? If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off; it is better for you to enter life crippled, than, having your two hands, to go, , into the unquenchable fire, (where their worm does not die, and the fire is not quenched). to the earth, you who have weakened the nations! Then I will make to cease from the cities of Judah and from the streets of Jerusalem the voice of joy and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride; for, God hated child sacrifice. One of the places that the Greek people believed was a gate to the underworld was found in Paneas, later named (under Roman rule) Cesarea Philippi, (and now named Banias). to make them sit with nobles, and inherit a, , and He set the world on them. FACT: The Greek “Gehenna” is always transliterated correctly as “Hell,” 12 times. There’s another very deliberate time when Yeshua used the word gehenna/geennes. For my soul has had enough troubles, and my life has drawn near to Sheol. Geenna gets its root from the Hebrew place name, Gei ben Hinnom (Valley of the son of Hinnom)  or sometimes just Gei Hinnom (Valley of Hinnom). So I said, ‘, The finality of Sheol is the horrific thought of becoming nothingness, remembered no longer, without, But did YHWH really have a plan that would save us from the fate of Sheol? for the foundation, firmly placed. Job squarely places the biggest question in front of us: if a human dies, will they live again? “, It wasn’t a question of “if He could”, it was a question of “if He. Now they were Mary Magdalene and Joanna and Mary the mother of James; also the other women with them were telling these things to the apostles. He also deals with the errors of soul sleep and annihilationism. Where is the Anointed One, from David’s line, who would be our Salvation; the One who would deliver our soul from the power of Sheol? Gehenna is NOT hell. The prayer of Hannah really drives the point home. Today it is known as Wadi er-Rababi. Everyone goes to the grave, and in Sheol everyone is separated from the God of Life. He was not just speaking words, He was making the point visually. So I said, ‘I have been expelled from Your sight. Instead, the word gehenna refers to a literal place outside the walls of Jerusalem. Gehenna originally referred to the valley of Hinnom where people used to offer their children as sacrifices and throw them into the fire. Sorting out Sheol, Hades, Gehenna, the Abode of the Just, and Hell What happened to Christ after He died? Hell - Norse, the realm of the Dead, ruled over by Hela, daughter of Loki, a place of cold. In the New Testament, the Greek word for this place is Hades, and our English translation is Hell. Everyone dies and goes down to Sheol… even the patriarch Jacob knew he would go there, eventually. If these men die the death of all men or if they suffer the fate of all men, then YHWH has not sent me. O YHWH, You have brought up my soul from Sheol; You have kept me alive, that I would not go down to the pit. Your wrath has rested upon me, and You have afflicted me with all Your waves…. After that pivitol moment, Yeshua was ready to declare His mission… He would be killed, but He would not be bound by Sheol. The dead bodies of this people will be food for the birds of the sky and for the beasts of the earth; and no one will frighten them away. What man can live and not see death? I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’, Nevertheless you will be thrust down to Sheol, to the recesses of the pit. They make night into day, saying, ‘The light is near,’ in the presence of darkness. However, unauthorized use and/or duplication of this material without express and written permission from this site’s author is prohibited. But if YHWH brings about an entirely new thing and the ground opens its mouth and swallows them up with all that is theirs, and they descend alive into Sheol [Sh’ohlah], then you will understand that these men have spurned YHWH.”, As he finished speaking all these words, the ground that was under them split open; and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who belonged to Korah with their possessions. *8 Hades] The unseen World, the adobe of departed spirits, In the A.V. For example: Moreover, he [Ahaz] burned incense in the valley of Ben-hinnom [b’gei Ben-hinnom)  and burned his sons in fire, according to the abominations of the nations whom YHWH had driven out before the sons of Israel. Everyone dies. But by the NT, Hades became synonymous with the “temporary” place of suffering where only the wicked go, because after Jesus’ death, He took the righteous from the “good part” (Abraham’s bosom)(Luke Ch.16) to Heaven. And wickedness will be broken like a tree.”, to do all these deeds; for this is not my doing. Comparison To Hades Gehenna is not Hades. After Yeshua was raised up onto the cross, He came down and was buried in the grave… but Sheol could not hold Him down. In Hebrew Immanuel means “God with us” and He would be with us from the depths of Sheol to the heights of Heaven. Gei Hinnom eventually becomes, in English. with them were telling these things to the apostles. The eye of him who sees me will behold me no longer; your eyes will be on me, but, . View all posts by hebrewwordlessons. by Shawn Brasseaux “Gehenna” (Strong’s G1067: γέεννα) is the Greek name for the Valley of Hinnom. This is a fascinating passage. The Anointed One became the Living One, and He was found nowhere amongst the dead. Yeshua, the Messiah, would go to Sheol but He would not be abandoned there to rot. The Bible uses words Hades, Sheol, and even Gehenna when referring to hell. I call upon YHWH, who is worthy to be praised, and I am saved from my enemies. But YHWH kept every promise He made, and He promised Salvation. In the sermon he quoted a Psalm of David (Psalm 16:8-11) which included the word Sheol. Meaning of the word “Gehenna” Gehenna means valley of Hinnom. But he also called God out… where is the promise that you swore to David. He was not just speaking words, He was making the point visually. It was deplorable to God, and so he renamed the place. Though its roots grow old in the ground and its stump dies in the dry soil, at the scent of water it will flourish and put forth sprigs like a plant. Ethan the Ezrahite, writer of Psalm 89, asked a similar question: How long, O YHWH? So Gehenna is hell, the place where the unrighteous dead are cast. I will extol You, O YHWH, for You have lifted me up, and have not let my enemies rejoice over me. O YHWH, why do You reject my soul? Would He deliver our souls from the power of Sheol? Gehenna is a Greek word used in the New Testament that referred to the Valley of Hinnom, an actual valley outside of Jerusalem known as a burning rubbish pile. Ethan prayed the prayer, and through Hosea, YHWH answered: YHWH: Yet I have been YHWH your God since the land of Egypt; and you were not to know any god except Me, for there is no Saviour besides Me. I think the philosophical shift from Sheol as a neutral place (like the Greek Hades) to Gehenna as a metaphor for a place of punishment (Hell) is related to the Babylonian exile and the expansion of Persia under Cyrus the Great. . According to Isaiah, immoral behaviour and frivolous living meant that Jerusalem would be swallowed by Sheol: Therefore Sheol has enlarged its throat and opened its mouth without measure; and Jerusalem’s splendour, her multitude, her din of revelry and the jubilant within her, descend into it. The word 'Hell' itself, however, doesn't appear much in the Bible, and where it does, there are seeming differences from this popular narrative. If we all go to the grave, what does Salvation do for us? Gei ben Hinnom was where children were sacrificed into a fire to appease the foreign god Molech. Sarah Fisher is an admirer of old books, and old languages, old stone carvings, old photos and pretty much everything old. She is the administrator of the website www.booklives.ca and is a library technician at the University of Prince Edward Island. Fourth, Hades is not 'heaven,' i.e., the place where the soul of the righteous goes at death to await the coming resurrection, because the Greek word ouranos is the word for heaven in the New Testament. So they and all that belonged to them went down alive to Sheol; and the earth closed over them, and they perished from the midst of the assembly. The Greek word gehenna is used in the New Testament for "hell" and is derived from the Hebrew word hinnom. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Your wrath has rested upon me, and You have afflicted me with all Your waves…. A Bible study will provide us the answer to this question. Jesus used this word ten times as recorded in the New Testament. No wonder he felt overwhelmed. Will Your wrath burn like fire? Jesus’ comment would seem to suggest that hell may be somewhere within Hades. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Revelation Ch.20 states that all those who will be in Hades at the end of human history will be cast into the lake of fire (ie: Hell). Return, O YHWH, rescue my soul; save me because of Your lovingkindness. Each occurs twelve times. Shall we together go down into the dust?”. But David had great hope in YHWH… death would encompass, overwhelm, surround and confront him, but YHWH promised salvation… and YHWH would deliver. 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